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03-14 09:57 AM
D. INDIA EMPLOYMENT SECOND PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY
Section 202(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act provides that if total demand will be insufficient to use all available numbers in a particular Employment preference category in a calendar quarter, then the unused numbers may be made available without regard to the annual �per-country� limit. It has been determined that based on the current level of demand being received, primarily by Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices, there would be otherwise unused numbers in the Employment Second preference category. As a result, numbers have once again become available to the India Employment Second preference category. The rate of number use in the Employment Second preference category will continue to be monitored, and it may be necessary to make adjustments should the level of demand increase substantially.
May be EB2 India and China can see some movement in July VB published in June.
Section 202(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act provides that if total demand will be insufficient to use all available numbers in a particular Employment preference category in a calendar quarter, then the unused numbers may be made available without regard to the annual �per-country� limit. It has been determined that based on the current level of demand being received, primarily by Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices, there would be otherwise unused numbers in the Employment Second preference category. As a result, numbers have once again become available to the India Employment Second preference category. The rate of number use in the Employment Second preference category will continue to be monitored, and it may be necessary to make adjustments should the level of demand increase substantially.
May be EB2 India and China can see some movement in July VB published in June.
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07-17 04:48 PM
As always, thanks to IV leadership for their work and inspiration. I am curious to know IV's opinion on possibilities of legislative changes this year. I was more optimistic last December (2006), than I am today. Immigration reform is dead, and based on what I am hearing from some of the blogs, the chances for any legislation this year for skilled immigrants are bleak. After a lot of work in last two years, I have some opportunities to get into an alternative field of interest. The I-485 process (switched job and applied again in Nov 2006) now limits me from changing into a different field. After being in US for near 10 yrs, I have lost the appetite to continue putting everything at stake. My pessimism may be arising from my paticular situation, but I don't see any point in continuing to be in this country if I cannot switch to my field of interest for another 2-10 yrs.
pbojja
06-12 06:12 PM
I believe that there is a great flaw in the way the USCIS allocates VISA NUMBERS among EB1, EB2 and EB3 which is very much evident and if we can stand united we can get something done.
After carefully observing the trend in VISA approval and VISA bulletins, It is a reality that EB3-I is not moving and at the same time EB2 and EB1 are moving fast in relative terms and probably may even become current ( EB1 is already current ), But one thing USCIS is clearly not considering is the Priority Date, which basically means that they are not giving a damn thing about how long the person from EB3-I is waiting for. Here is my suggestion and some of the IV representatives need to analyse what Iam gonna say and see if they can stand up. Being an EB3-I india myself, i totally agree that EB1 and EB2 should be given a weightage and some preference over EB3, but I dont agree to what USCIS is currently following, EB2 With priority 2006 getting ahead of EB3-I with priority date 2001. This is ridiculous and to even think about it, it just sounds stupid. What they can do is , They can move the Dates in both Categories while giving preference to EB1 and EB2 first.
Please dont jump up & down before i complete. Iam just giving you an example of how things should work and how they can move dates forward for all 3 categories while maintaining that EB1 and EB2 gets preference over EB3. Let us ignore Eb1, since it is already current. Now Coming to Eb2, the priority Date is 2004 for them.Ideally speaking, They should not move them ahead until atleast EB3 reaches 2004. But once Both EB2 and EB3 reaches the priority date of 2004, Obviously EB2 gets the preference over Eb3 and EB2 will start to move ahead but not by much, let us say 1 year. Now, Clearly, EB2 is still given the extra preference over EB3 but at the same time, we are maintaining the priority dates between EB2 and EB3 as close as possible so that the system is not totally unfair to EB3 filers. I think, as one of the un-biased Organisation we should stand up against this unfair treatment in general. I hope even EB-2 will understand what iam trying to say.
let me know if iam making any sense. If am wrong, also let me know. So that i can get a better understanding of things and correct myself.
Not sure whatz ur point , But here is the deal EB2 has more numbers because of roll overs from ROW and EB-1 and they are ahead of EB3 .
If we talk about ridiculous things here are some
ROW EB2 - 2008 can get a green card before Indian EB2 -2004
Counting Dependents under Employment based
CIS wasting Visa Numbers even when they had 500 k pending applications
After carefully observing the trend in VISA approval and VISA bulletins, It is a reality that EB3-I is not moving and at the same time EB2 and EB1 are moving fast in relative terms and probably may even become current ( EB1 is already current ), But one thing USCIS is clearly not considering is the Priority Date, which basically means that they are not giving a damn thing about how long the person from EB3-I is waiting for. Here is my suggestion and some of the IV representatives need to analyse what Iam gonna say and see if they can stand up. Being an EB3-I india myself, i totally agree that EB1 and EB2 should be given a weightage and some preference over EB3, but I dont agree to what USCIS is currently following, EB2 With priority 2006 getting ahead of EB3-I with priority date 2001. This is ridiculous and to even think about it, it just sounds stupid. What they can do is , They can move the Dates in both Categories while giving preference to EB1 and EB2 first.
Please dont jump up & down before i complete. Iam just giving you an example of how things should work and how they can move dates forward for all 3 categories while maintaining that EB1 and EB2 gets preference over EB3. Let us ignore Eb1, since it is already current. Now Coming to Eb2, the priority Date is 2004 for them.Ideally speaking, They should not move them ahead until atleast EB3 reaches 2004. But once Both EB2 and EB3 reaches the priority date of 2004, Obviously EB2 gets the preference over Eb3 and EB2 will start to move ahead but not by much, let us say 1 year. Now, Clearly, EB2 is still given the extra preference over EB3 but at the same time, we are maintaining the priority dates between EB2 and EB3 as close as possible so that the system is not totally unfair to EB3 filers. I think, as one of the un-biased Organisation we should stand up against this unfair treatment in general. I hope even EB-2 will understand what iam trying to say.
let me know if iam making any sense. If am wrong, also let me know. So that i can get a better understanding of things and correct myself.
Not sure whatz ur point , But here is the deal EB2 has more numbers because of roll overs from ROW and EB-1 and they are ahead of EB3 .
If we talk about ridiculous things here are some
ROW EB2 - 2008 can get a green card before Indian EB2 -2004
Counting Dependents under Employment based
CIS wasting Visa Numbers even when they had 500 k pending applications
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sagar_nyc
11-03 05:06 PM
May i know what kind of decisions we are making based on different priority dates of members in EB3
Please Vote, this is one of the best way to know, where we stand. Make a lil easy in making further decisions.
Please Vote, this is one of the best way to know, where we stand. Make a lil easy in making further decisions.
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desi3933
03-11 11:43 AM
The best thing you can do to me is 'Ignore me', I promise you I will ignore you. I have never ever insulted or used bad words for anybody ever on a Cyber forum, may be just b'cause I've never encountered a person like you.
But if you insist on insulting somebody you are going to get it back....
>> I have never ever insulted or used bad words for anybody ever on a Cyber forum, may be just b'cause I've never encountered a person like you.
IMHO, that was uncalled for.
Peace!
But if you insist on insulting somebody you are going to get it back....
>> I have never ever insulted or used bad words for anybody ever on a Cyber forum, may be just b'cause I've never encountered a person like you.
IMHO, that was uncalled for.
Peace!
NKR
09-25 09:59 AM
Just curious. Why do you claim ROW is receiving preferential treatment over India when all the countries get the same upper limit of the visas. Now if the Indians ask for more visas just because there are more Indians asking for green cards, wouldn't that be preferential treatment?.
I wouldn�t say ROW is receiving preferential treatment, but they are in an advantageous position due to their representation. I don�t think there will ever be a consensus on the quota issue, both ROW and India/China applicants come up with their own arguments supporting their stand on it.
Personally I think recapturing unused visas will decrease the wait time for India/China applicants without affecting ROW applicants. There won�t be any need to remove quota limits.
And I agree with rajeshalex that this thread needs to be closed. the counter arguments are getting more confusing...
I wouldn�t say ROW is receiving preferential treatment, but they are in an advantageous position due to their representation. I don�t think there will ever be a consensus on the quota issue, both ROW and India/China applicants come up with their own arguments supporting their stand on it.
Personally I think recapturing unused visas will decrease the wait time for India/China applicants without affecting ROW applicants. There won�t be any need to remove quota limits.
And I agree with rajeshalex that this thread needs to be closed. the counter arguments are getting more confusing...
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msp1976
02-06 03:53 PM
It is widely known fact that Members may be even reluctant to answer the same question again and again ... but unless a legislation is passed , PD will not move.
Unless there is reform....it is very likely that EB2 India would stay where it is today for a very long time....It may even retrogress further...In 96-97 there was a time when EB3 was better than EB2.....That might not happen ...but EB2 India is definately not gonna be too much better than EB3...All people are now trying to get into EB2 wagon and that is gonna is almost as bad as EB3 .....
Unless there is reform....it is very likely that EB2 India would stay where it is today for a very long time....It may even retrogress further...In 96-97 there was a time when EB3 was better than EB2.....That might not happen ...but EB2 India is definately not gonna be too much better than EB3...All people are now trying to get into EB2 wagon and that is gonna is almost as bad as EB3 .....
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NKR
03-13 10:05 AM
Looks like I need to take up a priests job somewhere and file another GC in E4 category which is current. God willing, I might get GC soon.
BTW I was not expecting EB2 to move forward that much. Would be interesting to see if it moves further in next bulletin..
BTW I was not expecting EB2 to move forward that much. Would be interesting to see if it moves further in next bulletin..
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2ndJuly
09-17 02:09 PM
here how it will be considered:
first human--> followed by illegal immigrants-->next horses-->last and least aliens
first human--> followed by illegal immigrants-->next horses-->last and least aliens
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Macaca
02-15 01:54 PM
As soon as some one expresses his frustration, person is automatically labeled as a bad guy.
A short digression to an answer.
Most CS undergraduate curriculums have a 4 course sequence CS-1, CS-2, CS-3 and CS-4. This means that CS-3 is pre-requisite for CS-4, .... In CS-4 it is not possible to answer CS-1 questions. The instructor gets irritated if you do that.
Your following concerns are covered in Retrogression 101.
1. Things change in DC. Core had some info in Dec/Jan that changed.
2. No one can promise anything. Bush is the most ardent supporter of CIR but can (will) not get it done.
Nothing happening as some core members wrote in very optimistic tone about Feb 15. No congressman is even talking about it lately.
Are core members trying to just enroll more by giving hollow promises?
It is very irritating for someone in Retrogression 401 to answer Retrogression 101 questions at the rate of 1 per day with no desire to be educated.
I have tried to answer a Retrogression 101 question in Issues surrounding Immigration Voice's disclosure of Funds (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3236&page=5). My answer was from a URL without my opinions. This thread was devoted to this one person. The answers had no effect on the person. We wasted a day on it.
Forget contributions - find other ways to survive......
A lot of people, including me have lost faith in IV. They are not going to pay. We don't know what IV is working on and we don't believe it can do anything. The sooner IV accepts it, the better. I have seen this personally in talking to people and you can see the evidence with less than 300 people contributing. IV needs to produce results first.
A short digression to an answer.
Most CS undergraduate curriculums have a 4 course sequence CS-1, CS-2, CS-3 and CS-4. This means that CS-3 is pre-requisite for CS-4, .... In CS-4 it is not possible to answer CS-1 questions. The instructor gets irritated if you do that.
Your following concerns are covered in Retrogression 101.
1. Things change in DC. Core had some info in Dec/Jan that changed.
2. No one can promise anything. Bush is the most ardent supporter of CIR but can (will) not get it done.
Nothing happening as some core members wrote in very optimistic tone about Feb 15. No congressman is even talking about it lately.
Are core members trying to just enroll more by giving hollow promises?
It is very irritating for someone in Retrogression 401 to answer Retrogression 101 questions at the rate of 1 per day with no desire to be educated.
I have tried to answer a Retrogression 101 question in Issues surrounding Immigration Voice's disclosure of Funds (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3236&page=5). My answer was from a URL without my opinions. This thread was devoted to this one person. The answers had no effect on the person. We wasted a day on it.
Forget contributions - find other ways to survive......
A lot of people, including me have lost faith in IV. They are not going to pay. We don't know what IV is working on and we don't believe it can do anything. The sooner IV accepts it, the better. I have seen this personally in talking to people and you can see the evidence with less than 300 people contributing. IV needs to produce results first.
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gc_maine2
03-14 09:39 AM
I pray your wish come true ....
Yeah I agree. We should lobby to merge EB2 and EB3. J
Yeah I agree. We should lobby to merge EB2 and EB3. J
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santb1975
06-02 12:07 PM
Please make your calls. This is for everyone. Please take the poll after you called. Thx
Since all the reps are from California, Is this only for California members?
If not, let me know and I will get on the horn as soon as I can (probably not possible today, maybe tomorrow).
Since all the reps are from California, Is this only for California members?
If not, let me know and I will get on the horn as soon as I can (probably not possible today, maybe tomorrow).
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sac-r-ten
03-29 01:47 PM
In my opinion you are doing the right thing by reporting against your employer to DOL. DOL take their own time. But I have known a case where the employer had to shut-shop coz of complaints from former employees.
As some others have mentioned, look out for transfers with consular processing and get back here.
Good luck with everthing.
As some others have mentioned, look out for transfers with consular processing and get back here.
Good luck with everthing.
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msp1976
03-10 07:57 PM
Friend of mine (to whom I contacted regarding IV) is in USA for 7 years and knows how lobbying & party funds are raised (including Watergate) and also very much aware of "Retrogression" and problems of being "Legal".
Also, he is aware of cause of IV and appreciate that but he is un-comfortable because whenever he login to IV, he noticed that:
- more than 40-50% respondents are talking about money/contributions & signatures showing how much they have contributed as of today,
- 10-15% are talking about blocking non-contributors(calling by Free Lunchers etc..),
- 5 % are Pseudo intellectuals (talking BIG but dont know immigration basics like - PD, issues of I-140/I485)
- 5% are always trying to shutdown others, accusing/calling by names to other forum members (he says "Highly skilled" in accusing!!)
- and remaining are "Positive" contributors for IVs retrogression cause (talking about - I spoke to senators office, can we arrange rallies, when to Fax/fliers, when State chapters are going to meet, posting excerpts from senate/CSPAN/News etc..)
Is our audience is so? Can we focus on our cause? pl be together like.. Like-Minded!!!
First of all We are not into any 'gate' here...We are not creating any 'watergate' or 'immigrationgate'...
All activities we do are legal and you would eventually get the expenditure report too...
Now If you try to build any organization that is non paid completely volunteer...basis, all kinds of things do creep in...
There is no avoiding that....
Your 'friend' has a very idealized version of public organization in his mind....
But the fact is that all public volunteer based organization(especially the ones so heavily populated by 'high skilled' ones) are going to be chaotic....
The only public organizations that are not chaotic are either the Chinese communist party or paramilitary organization like fire fighters and police departments..All other organizations are going to be how you described...the different %ges..
Now you have 2 choices.....
Choice 1. Try to work with the chaos and have some voice in the legislative process...
Choice 2. Shut your self out and not have a voice at all and mind you one less voice makes our collective voice weaker....
The choice is yours to make.........
Also, he is aware of cause of IV and appreciate that but he is un-comfortable because whenever he login to IV, he noticed that:
- more than 40-50% respondents are talking about money/contributions & signatures showing how much they have contributed as of today,
- 10-15% are talking about blocking non-contributors(calling by Free Lunchers etc..),
- 5 % are Pseudo intellectuals (talking BIG but dont know immigration basics like - PD, issues of I-140/I485)
- 5% are always trying to shutdown others, accusing/calling by names to other forum members (he says "Highly skilled" in accusing!!)
- and remaining are "Positive" contributors for IVs retrogression cause (talking about - I spoke to senators office, can we arrange rallies, when to Fax/fliers, when State chapters are going to meet, posting excerpts from senate/CSPAN/News etc..)
Is our audience is so? Can we focus on our cause? pl be together like.. Like-Minded!!!
First of all We are not into any 'gate' here...We are not creating any 'watergate' or 'immigrationgate'...
All activities we do are legal and you would eventually get the expenditure report too...
Now If you try to build any organization that is non paid completely volunteer...basis, all kinds of things do creep in...
There is no avoiding that....
Your 'friend' has a very idealized version of public organization in his mind....
But the fact is that all public volunteer based organization(especially the ones so heavily populated by 'high skilled' ones) are going to be chaotic....
The only public organizations that are not chaotic are either the Chinese communist party or paramilitary organization like fire fighters and police departments..All other organizations are going to be how you described...the different %ges..
Now you have 2 choices.....
Choice 1. Try to work with the chaos and have some voice in the legislative process...
Choice 2. Shut your self out and not have a voice at all and mind you one less voice makes our collective voice weaker....
The choice is yours to make.........
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peer123
06-13 06:29 PM
I am getting married in Jan 2008. can i go ahead and apply now? How to include the wife? will that be a problem.
you mean your future wife... :)....
you mean your future wife... :)....
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amitjoey
10-06 07:29 PM
Guys,
I know this is immigration forum , so People who are not interested in this thread please ignore.
Considering the State of Markets and Global economy.
Do you guys think it make sense to buy a Flat/Single family house in India , I am going to india in Mid october. Should i take the lunge and buy some proerty there...This would be the first home..so no Home equity Loan..It will be on 12% interest Rae from some indian bank.
Please throw some ideas..
Yes! It is a good idea!. You would have some equity built over the years.
I know this is immigration forum , so People who are not interested in this thread please ignore.
Considering the State of Markets and Global economy.
Do you guys think it make sense to buy a Flat/Single family house in India , I am going to india in Mid october. Should i take the lunge and buy some proerty there...This would be the first home..so no Home equity Loan..It will be on 12% interest Rae from some indian bank.
Please throw some ideas..
Yes! It is a good idea!. You would have some equity built over the years.
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gsc999
07-11 06:41 PM
[COLOR=Navy][FONT=Comic Sans MS]I think you guys are organizing a watershed event for skilled, legal immigrants - I wish you great success.
I cannot emphasize the importance of alerting media to this. Media attention is not at its best over the weekend so you will have to work extra hard to make sure that you get good media coverage. I hope that someone is working on creating a press release for the event.
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Will the Nor Cal P.R. person please stand-up!
We are coordinating the media effort with the core team and focussing on the tactical stuff right now.
I cannot emphasize the importance of alerting media to this. Media attention is not at its best over the weekend so you will have to work extra hard to make sure that you get good media coverage. I hope that someone is working on creating a press release for the event.
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Will the Nor Cal P.R. person please stand-up!
We are coordinating the media effort with the core team and focussing on the tactical stuff right now.
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ramaonline
05-25 12:58 PM
Looks like the amt has come down to 3500 from 5000 (Not sure abt this)
sanders is an oil salesman or what?
http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2007/05/thousands_of_gr.html
sanders is an oil salesman or what?
http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2007/05/thousands_of_gr.html
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pmb76
08-14 08:59 PM
I agree with Chanakya. Gave you green.
Raji
07-17 08:23 PM
As you are aware there is alot going on right now. The administration is talking about CIR.
Lots of bills with small provisions get talked up or introduced. In fact that happens every year if you look back. We keep an eye on what's moving and where the effort is needed. We do not want to waste our resources and effort if something may end up simply being a placeholder or a position statement.
In a nutshell, there will be fax campaign when we are advised (by lawmakers, lobbyists and friendly advocacy groups among others) and we determine that it is needed and will be effective.
Thanks for the response Paskal. However I still do not underststand why IV is not encouraging everyone to send faxes and register their support via the AILA site. As I have understood AILA has been a leader in this effort for immigration {see July 2007}. If you are trying to say that the interests of AILA and IV are not exactly the same - that is to be expected - no 2 organizations can ever be the same - BUT - surely we can come together to form and pursue some strategic interests. I see that with regard to these bills IV and AILA interests meet. Further if readers @ IV send messages via AILA Action Alert then IV resources can be saved to follow the path that you have described above.
Finally, the bill may be a placeholder or position statement, but in the end we need to demonstrate the numbers - highlighting this bill may eventually lead to some worthwhile convergence in the CIR - I think no opportunity need be lost in this process and the more we highlight our position and condition the more visibility we get.
Regards!
Raji
Lots of bills with small provisions get talked up or introduced. In fact that happens every year if you look back. We keep an eye on what's moving and where the effort is needed. We do not want to waste our resources and effort if something may end up simply being a placeholder or a position statement.
In a nutshell, there will be fax campaign when we are advised (by lawmakers, lobbyists and friendly advocacy groups among others) and we determine that it is needed and will be effective.
Thanks for the response Paskal. However I still do not underststand why IV is not encouraging everyone to send faxes and register their support via the AILA site. As I have understood AILA has been a leader in this effort for immigration {see July 2007}. If you are trying to say that the interests of AILA and IV are not exactly the same - that is to be expected - no 2 organizations can ever be the same - BUT - surely we can come together to form and pursue some strategic interests. I see that with regard to these bills IV and AILA interests meet. Further if readers @ IV send messages via AILA Action Alert then IV resources can be saved to follow the path that you have described above.
Finally, the bill may be a placeholder or position statement, but in the end we need to demonstrate the numbers - highlighting this bill may eventually lead to some worthwhile convergence in the CIR - I think no opportunity need be lost in this process and the more we highlight our position and condition the more visibility we get.
Regards!
Raji
raj2007
06-16 12:57 AM
You guys are amazing.. I have one hypothetical question.. Please pls let me know what you would have done in the below scenario. I think a simple yes or no answer is what I am looking for.
PD is Apr 06 - I-140 approved - Currently Unmarried � WILL TAKE ATLEAST ONE YEAR BEFORE I GET MARRIED - My Spouse will be residing in India at the time of marriage - Spouse would not have any valid U.S visa (H1 or L1).
I have read this thread and others, and I think I understand a little on how the process works. I am looking for your gut-feeling answer if I should apply for 485 or wait till I get married. Let�s assume that my marriage will take place only after one year from now.
I know it�s a very very tricky situation, I am very confused. Obviously, my preference is to wait for a longer time to get my GC, than separated from spouse for years.
Should I apply for 485 or not?
There are so many stages where you can apply the breaks. Like if you get your FP too soon..you can reschedule the date or even withdraw the I-485 application later. Other option is to convert to CP. There are so many options and talk to your attroney.
I feel you should file now, try to do civil ceremony done in india in 30-45 days so you are safe.
PD is Apr 06 - I-140 approved - Currently Unmarried � WILL TAKE ATLEAST ONE YEAR BEFORE I GET MARRIED - My Spouse will be residing in India at the time of marriage - Spouse would not have any valid U.S visa (H1 or L1).
I have read this thread and others, and I think I understand a little on how the process works. I am looking for your gut-feeling answer if I should apply for 485 or wait till I get married. Let�s assume that my marriage will take place only after one year from now.
I know it�s a very very tricky situation, I am very confused. Obviously, my preference is to wait for a longer time to get my GC, than separated from spouse for years.
Should I apply for 485 or not?
There are so many stages where you can apply the breaks. Like if you get your FP too soon..you can reschedule the date or even withdraw the I-485 application later. Other option is to convert to CP. There are so many options and talk to your attroney.
I feel you should file now, try to do civil ceremony done in india in 30-45 days so you are safe.
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